16:00:32 <quidam> #startmeeting 04/Oct/2019 16:00:32 <Trisnity> Meeting started Fri Oct 4 16:00:32 2019 UTC. The chair is quidam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:32 <Trisnity> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:41 <quidam> hi everybody! 16:00:55 <quidam> how are things? 16:02:24 <quidam> today is an interesting day, it is the FSF's 35th anniversary, my 4th anniversary working at the FSF, Michael (FSF webmaster) had a baby today, and it is Ian's (FSF Sysadmin) birthday! 16:02:35 <bandali> hey quidam! not bad, you? 16:02:47 <quidam> bandali: can't complain 16:02:50 <bandali> wow that’s quite a day!!! 16:02:50 <quidam> but I'll try anyway 16:02:54 <bandali> lol :D 16:03:05 <bandali> do go ahead :p 16:03:14 <chaosmonk> hi quidam. congrats to all 16:03:56 <valessio> :D 16:04:08 <valessio> Happy hacking for all! 16:04:19 <quidam> it will be a date to remember 16:04:23 <bandali> happy happy happy 16:04:44 <quidam> I'm checking the merge requests 16:05:17 <quidam> I merged the new ones that were ready 16:05:30 <quidam> I think it is time I start chipping away at the older ones! :/ 16:05:39 <bandali> nice 16:06:01 <quidam> first I'll check the build logs 16:06:21 <chaosmonk> quidam: the latest thing blocking debian-installer is localechooser. can you build that now? 16:06:38 <bandali> quidam, can i ask you about icecat? or do you prefer to focus on trisquel? i do have to leave in ~15mins from now 16:06:53 <quidam> chaosmonk: sure thing 16:07:40 <quidam> btw, I will be leaving at 12:45 16:07:52 <quidam> (FSF workiversary lunch) 16:07:57 <bandali> ha 16:08:27 <bandali> was wondering if you got around to reading mtg’s message(s) regarding icecat, the road to 68 in terms of what’s there and what’s missing (e.g. redoing the home page with new firefox apis) (and if you could please push what you have so far), and [co-]maintainership 16:09:31 <quidam> no, I'll do that now 16:09:48 <quidam> (well, after I get to fix/launch localechooser) 16:10:40 <Ark74> hello guys! 16:10:45 <quidam> hi Ark74 16:10:47 <Ark74> did I made it to the meeting? 16:10:50 <quidam> yes 16:10:59 <bandali> awesome, thanks quidam :) 16:10:59 <quidam> I merged your MR's, thanks! 16:11:08 <Ark74> sorry, my ISP decided to have issues with our network xD 16:11:24 <Ark74> quidam, which one? 16:11:34 <Ark74> I made 2 IIRC 16:11:57 <Ark74> the -A flag and https for trisquel-builder? 16:12:01 <Ark74> or the libreoffice one? 16:12:22 <Ark74> oh, wait the libreoffice for etiona I guess is still only a branch 16:12:28 <Ark74> no MR yet 16:13:27 <Ark74> oh! yay! 16:13:34 <Ark74> the trisquel builder one 16:14:34 <Ark74> what are we discussing right now? 16:14:54 <chaosmonk> quidam: i haven't fixed my make-tor MR yet. i'm not sure exactly how to handle importing the key. LOCAL_APT is defined in config, but the key needs to be imported before config. how bad would it be to import the key in config when we import upstream's keys? 16:15:54 <chaosmonk> quidam: i've built localechooser on my machine succesfully, so it shouldn't require fixing, just building 16:16:18 <quidam> chaosmonk: I marked it as a dependency, so it doesn't go missing next time 16:16:41 <quidam> launched 16:17:13 <quidam> Ark74: is the LO one ready? 16:17:55 <Ark74> quidam, well, kind of. 16:17:56 <bandali> alrighty, gotta run; have a nice day and weekend y’all! 16:18:10 <Ark74> bandali, you too! 16:18:13 <quidam> chaosmonk: the tor one is an odd one. I don't mind fixing it in the config script temporarily 16:18:26 <quidam> it should still not download anything, the file can live in DATA/tor 16:18:31 <bandali> Ark74, thaanks! 16:18:39 <quidam> bandali: you too 16:18:49 <bandali> thanks quidam :) 16:18:55 <bandali> o/ 16:19:07 <Ark74> quidam, I'm not sure why it ask to install more dependencies than the ppa repository. 16:19:17 <Ark74> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wZXBXBZsnF/ 16:19:49 <quidam> thats from what command? sbuild? or apt build-dep? 16:20:03 <quidam> or installing the binaries? 16:20:13 <Ark74> oh, sorry. That's my local repository 16:20:29 <Ark74> upgrading now with the built packages 16:20:52 <quidam> what packages are installed that are not installed when doing it from ppa? 16:21:06 <Ark74> al new packages 16:21:10 <Ark74> *all 16:21:26 <Ark74> since I already had the ppa repository installed 16:21:36 <Ark74> I would wonder it will only "upgrade" the installed packages 16:21:39 <Ark74> not install new 16:21:58 <quidam> not sure, seems to be pulling java build dependencies 16:23:14 <Ark74> yeah, some guys said they were not build since they are not -dev packages 16:23:36 <Ark74> but still looked weird with all the java dependencies 16:23:50 <Ark74> (some guy at #ubuntu-dev) 16:24:19 <quidam> aptitude dist-upgrade may give you more detail 16:25:10 <quidam> also, you can do apt-rdepends to see what is pulling them 16:26:10 <quidam> one of the updated packages probably depends (or recommends) those java build deps. you can tell if it is a recommend thing by running apt --no-install-recommends dist-upgrade 16:26:24 * quidam looks into the icecat topic 16:26:24 <Ark74> all changes where done on Depends-Build 16:26:40 <Ark74> they shouldn't be called 16:26:49 <quidam> Ark74: yeah, but some dependencies are calculated by debhelper 16:26:54 <quidam> it can get confusing 16:26:59 <Ark74> I'll check aptitude and rdepends 16:27:17 <Ark74> also, on bulding 16:27:29 <Ark74> are we creating all the arch all packages? 16:27:35 <quidam> one other way is to go ahead with the upgrade, then remove the extra packages and see what do they try to uninstall with them 16:27:43 <Ark74> aptitude-common is missing on my repositories? 16:27:51 <Ark74> libsane-common 16:27:58 <Ark74> and maybe others too 16:28:10 <quidam> on etiona? or flidas too? 16:28:13 <Ark74> etiona 16:28:20 <quidam> could you check flidas? 16:28:48 <Ark74> ok, let me launch the vm 16:29:20 <chaosmonk> quidam Ark74: i have aptitude-common in flidas 16:29:45 <Ark74> I suppose flidas is ok 16:29:59 <Ark74> I only started noticing missing dependencies once I moved to etiona 16:30:11 <quidam> that is quite important, I will check thorougly 16:30:18 <Ark74> many packages were held 16:30:20 <quidam> I wonder how to make a list of missing ones 16:30:53 <chaosmonk> quidam: the missing packages all seem to be packages with helpers 16:31:03 <chaosmonk> aptitude is built and tested on my machine 16:31:26 <Ark74> yeah, that could be a good start 16:31:34 <chaosmonk> any package helper not listed here <https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/status-package-helpers-etiona> is ready to go 16:32:15 <Ark74> that's why I added the -A to the MR on trisquel-builder 16:33:41 <chaosmonk> aptitude can be build. the sane-* packages build but i haven't tested them because i don't have a scanner 16:34:52 <Ark74> chaosmonk, the changes on the sane helpers for etiona are not necessary 16:35:15 <chaosmonk> Ark74: for all three sane-* source packages? 16:35:17 <Ark74> on bionic the issue with the artistic license was solved 16:35:22 <Ark74> it's the same change 16:35:47 <Ark74> all addressed on the package changes 16:36:04 <chaosmonk> right, but i checked this on debian buster lately and the change was only made for one or two of the packages iirc. in bionic all three are fixed? 16:36:40 <Ark74> I checked 2 also 16:37:16 <chaosmonk> quidam: what's the link to check jenkins status? you've shared it before but i've forgotten it 16:37:40 <Ark74> trisquel made the issue, that went to fedora, then to debian and I guess that went into ubuntu just by gravity 16:37:42 <quidam> what I mean is the fix to the build scripts, we will need to bump the version on the helpers that need rebuilding, and build them all 16:37:46 <quidam> so I will need a list 16:38:30 <chaosmonk> quidam: oh okay. i can compile that for next week 16:38:55 <Ark74> binary packages? 16:39:36 <chaosmonk> Ark74: probably makes more sense to check source packages 16:39:50 <chaosmonk> since those correspond to the package helpers 16:40:39 <chaosmonk> quidam: here's an alternate solution to the tor issue. thoughts? https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/merge_requests/261 16:42:57 <chaosmonk> quidam: one more quick thing: according to wikipedia we are switching to lxqt for trisquel mini. can you confirm this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisquel 16:43:16 <quidam> chaosmonk: thanks (for volunteering for the list) 16:43:45 <quidam> chaosmonk: checking the tor one 16:44:06 <quidam> chaosmonk: no idea about lxqt 16:44:16 <quidam> if we discussed that I don't remember 16:44:24 <quidam> is there a reference? 16:44:50 <chaosmonk> no 16:44:58 <chaosmonk> i have no idea where it came from 16:45:24 <quidam> the tor one looks good, merged 16:45:39 <quidam> ok, gotta go now! 16:45:47 <chaosmonk> lxde is being discontinued and rolled into lxqt, but that shouldn't affect us until trisquel 10 16:45:51 <quidam> I'll be back after lunch 16:46:21 <quidam> I'll leave the meeting open, feel free to keep discussing things without me, ping me for anything that needs me and I'll follow up in an hour 16:46:23 <chaosmonk> quidam: thanks. if you ping me when you get back i'll let you know how debian-installer looks after localechooser is done building 16:46:30 <Ark74> ok, see you there 16:46:40 <Ark74> I'll be testing the libreoffice one 16:46:54 <Ark74> maybe we can figure it out 17:03:06 <Ark74> Here the apt-rdepends for libreoffice etiona build: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6KVWPKxXxp/ 17:33:55 <chaosmonk> Ark74: why are the reverse dependencies significant? wouldn't it be the build or runtime dependencies that would block libreoffice? 17:43:43 <chaosmonk> quidam: when you get back, see the "NOT YET IN REPO" section i've added to <https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/status-package-helpers-etiona> 17:44:16 <Ark74> chaosmonk, because I'm tracing what package is trying to add a whole load of dependencies on the system 17:44:29 <Ark74> that are not required from the ppa 17:44:54 <Ark74> I guess I found it 17:47:42 <Ark74> seems this guys is the one adding all the noise, libreoffice-report-builder 17:47:47 <Ark74> yep, this is the one 17:49:02 <Ark74> ohhh! 17:49:28 <Ark74> there are two, libreoffice-report-builder and libreoffice-report-builder-bin O_o! 17:50:36 <Ark74> seems we need to use the libreoffice-report-builder-bin package otherwise it will install a whole bunch of dependencies, java mostly 17:50:40 <chaosmonk> they depend on packages not in the ppa? 17:51:14 <chaosmonk> oh, just libreoffice-report-builder does? 17:51:41 <Ark74> yep 17:52:41 <Ark74> My guess, since I'm not an expert, is that the binary package can deal with the precompiled dependencies, but if we install the non-binary it will ask to install all the software to work 17:53:27 <chaosmonk> is libreoffice-report-builder important? 17:53:44 <Ark74> we can use the libreoffice-report-builder-bin package 17:53:49 <Ark74> and that should solve the issue 17:53:56 <Ark74> avoid the non-binary package 17:54:17 <Ark74> I'm not sure why the PPA installed it though 17:54:38 <chaosmonk> libreoffice recommends libreoffice-report-builder 17:54:39 <Ark74> chaosmonk, do you have a etiona VM? 17:54:55 <chaosmonk> Ark74: i have etiona on a real computer 17:55:25 <Ark74> there is no way to make a netinstall right? 17:55:40 <chaosmonk> correct. i installed trisquel 8 and upgraded to trisquel 9 17:55:49 <Ark74> do you have libreoffice ppa on that machine? 17:55:59 <chaosmonk> i can 17:56:23 <chaosmonk> i'll add the ppa in a sec 17:56:34 <Ark74> wait 17:56:43 <Ark74> could you try my repo instead 17:56:48 <chaosmonk> what if we modify libreoffice's debian/control so that it no longer recommends libreoffice-report-builder? 17:57:02 <Ark74> I could do that 17:57:14 <Ark74> but since mine was an upgrade 17:57:40 <Ark74> I'd like to see what happens on a clean upgrade 17:57:58 <chaosmonk> what do you mean by clean upgrade? 17:58:33 <Ark74> from distro packages to backport packages (avoiding ppa) 17:58:52 <Ark74> Here my tmp repo: deb https://switnet.net/repo/ etiona-dep main 18:00:26 <Ark74> you might need apt-utils for the https repository 18:01:34 <chaosmonk> is your gpg key on the keyservers? 18:01:35 <Ark74> GPG key: 8926E0C5 18:01:48 <chaosmonk> k 18:04:36 <chaosmonk> upgrading 18:04:53 <Ark74> could you paste the dependency list? 18:05:19 <Ark74> did you had libreoffice-report-builder by default? 18:05:23 <chaosmonk> i don't have an irc client setup on the trisquel 9 machine 18:05:55 <Ark74> maybe just paste an url 18:06:13 <chaosmonk> yeah, i'll do that. waiting for the upgrade to finish 18:06:31 <Ark74> update or upgrade? 18:06:35 <chaosmonk> upgrade 18:07:10 <Ark74> are you using apt? or some other package manager? 18:07:21 <Ark74> (synaptic or else) 18:07:23 <chaosmonk> apt 18:07:26 <Ark74> oh, cool 18:07:34 <chaosmonk> oh, duh. i need to actually install libreoffice 18:07:44 <Ark74> yeah! 18:07:57 <chaosmonk> installing now 18:08:39 <Ark74> Ok, let me know if it install weird packages 18:08:47 <Ark74> or if it has libreoffice-report-builder 18:08:51 <Ark74> by default 18:09:26 <chaosmonk> note that i have libsane and some other stuff built locally, so this won't necessarily work on a fresh install now, but should work once we add the missing packages to the repo 18:10:13 <chaosmonk> what are the weird packages i should be watching for? 18:10:24 <chaosmonk> so far i see a lot of *-java 18:11:35 <Ark74> ohh 18:11:57 <Ark74> also libreoffice-report-builder? 18:12:22 <Ark74> ant packages? 18:13:04 <Ark74> please share the apt install dependency list 18:13:49 <chaosmonk> what is it you want me to paste? apt depends libreoffice? 18:14:24 <Ark74> something like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wZXBXBZsnF/ 18:15:19 <chaosmonk> crap, i can't scroll back that far. do you know if that gets logged anywhere? 18:15:53 <chaosmonk> i can paste "Setting up *" from the end of the install, if that's the same package list 18:16:08 <Ark74> I guess /var/log/apt/history.log 18:17:56 <chaosmonk> k, one minute. i'm multitasking between this and cooking 18:18:06 <Ark74> hehehehe 18:18:07 <Ark74> ok 18:19:36 <Ark74> here how it looks, https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/full?photo_id=502207266259 18:19:41 <chaosmonk> pastebin.com/SBx4ckrU 18:20:07 <Ark74> i hate this picture upload sites 18:20:10 <Ark74> -_- 18:20:29 <chaosmonk> that link redirected to the homepage 18:24:51 <Ark74> yeah, such crap site 18:24:54 <Ark74> here: http://ark.switnet.org/tmp/libreoffice.png 18:26:02 <Ark74> hmm, yeah it installed libreoffice-report-builder 18:26:14 <Ark74> and all of the dependencies 18:28:25 <chaosmonk> i'm removing libreoffice-report-builder to see what apt autoremove cleans up after 18:28:52 <Ark74> around 26 packages if I'm right 18:29:35 <Ark74> I'll investigate a little more on libreoffice-report-builder, see what it does and if we could "avoid it", or it's dependencies 18:30:07 <Ark74> *its 18:30:18 <chaosmonk> other that clutter/disk space is there a problem with its dependencies? 18:30:28 <chaosmonk> *than 18:31:54 <Ark74> well, not really, but I would prefer to avoid having devel like packages installed that will be used for one app, also don't like having that much java sitting around 18:31:54 <Ark74> xD 18:32:01 <Ark74> security we may say. 18:32:11 <chaosmonk> pastebin.com/KtDtXEt5 18:33:15 <Ark74> Ohh, 91 packages. It not much 78 Mb 18:33:43 <Ark74> but, again maybe to crowded for only one package 18:33:54 <Ark74> maybe we can change it from depends to suggest 18:34:15 <Ark74> not sure, I'll have to look into 18:34:31 <chaosmonk> it's a recommends, not a depends 18:34:46 <chaosmonk> libreoffice-report-builder-bin is a depends 18:35:06 <Ark74> but other than that, the helper is ready on this branch: https://devel.trisquel.info/Ark74/package-helpers/blob/libo-etiona/helpers/make-libreoffice 18:35:43 <Ark74> so apt --no-install-recommends should avoid it, right? 18:36:03 <chaosmonk> yes, if the user thinks to do that 18:36:49 <Ark74> I wonder, how and why they avoided all the dependencies on the ppa for that package. 18:37:31 <chaosmonk> if you add "sed -i 's/Recommends: libreoffice-report-builder/Suggests: libreoffice-report-builder/g' debian/control" to the helper that should do prevent it from being installed by default 18:38:00 <Ark74> yeah, i think that would be ok. 18:38:23 <Ark74> just need to know how the report builder works 18:38:24 <Ark74> xD 18:38:31 <Ark74> and what it does 18:39:53 <chaosmonk> i guess we should make sure it isn't important and what the user is missing by only using libreoffice-report-builder-bin 18:40:33 <Ark74> yeah, I'll be checking that. 18:41:36 <chaosmonk> according to apt search it's "LibreOffice component for building database reports" 18:41:48 <chaosmonk> and -bin is "LibreOffice component for building database reports -- libraries" 18:47:30 <Ark74> well, it's for LibreOffice Base 18:47:44 <Ark74> and it's a quite specific tool 18:48:15 <Ark74> it clearly requieres all java stuff 18:54:57 <Ark74> From here: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Report_Builder 18:57:22 <Ark74> I seems that this feature is what gets disabled by removing libreoffice-report-builder 18:57:37 <Ark74> http://ark.switnet.org/tmp/libo-base-report.png 18:59:04 <Ark74> quidam, do think is a good idea to change libreoffice-report-builder as "Suggests" ? 19:00:02 <chaosmonk> i doubt many if any trisquel users use it. that said, debian packaging generally seems to prioritize making sure that most users have the software they need, as opposed to arch which prioritizes making sure that most users don't have software they don't need. perhaps we should decide to either consciously adopt a policy of cutting down dependencies, or to go with the flow, but either way to be 19:00:05 <chaosmonk> consistent 19:02:31 <Ark74> well, yeah 19:04:25 <Ark74> IDK, if it were for me, I would avoid it by default, I mean, we can just `sudo apt install libreoffice-report-builder` if needed 19:04:36 <Ark74> the package will be available 19:05:50 <chaosmonk> i agree, but that's true for many packages in debian-based distros, so why single this one out? 19:05:53 <Ark74> quidam, is having all these java packages implies a security risk (pastebin.com/KtDtXEt5) ? 19:07:09 <Ark74> well, talking on a security stand point less is more xD 19:07:39 <chaosmonk> if we consider something too insecure to have installed we shouldn't have it in the repos at all 19:07:49 <chaosmonk> is this package in ubuntu main or universe? 19:07:54 <Ark74> if we don't have any evidence of security issues, then I'm ok with all the packages 19:08:11 <chaosmonk> main receives security updates and universe doesn't, which might make a difference 19:08:15 <Ark74> it's a backport 19:08:23 <chaosmonk> oh, right 19:08:29 <chaosmonk> rolling? 19:08:33 <Ark74> kind of 19:08:51 <chaosmonk> are the java dependencies backported too? 19:09:18 <Ark74> no, they come form our repo 19:09:19 <Ark74> let me check 19:11:25 <chaosmonk> liblayout-java for example is in universe <https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/liblayout-java> do it does not receive security updates 19:11:53 <chaosmonk> i'm not sure whether that's true for all of them 19:12:42 <chaosmonk> but it would just be one instance of a larger problem with being based on ubuntu 19:13:43 <Ark74> https://pastebin.com/8KfEseUW 19:16:10 <chaosmonk> okay, so all dependencies are from our repos 19:16:32 <chaosmonk> and the first several i picked randomly to check are all in unviverse upstream 19:18:56 <Ark74> well, let's try no to enter into the main / universe existencial debate 19:19:06 <Ark74> that is a big one. 19:19:24 <chaosmonk> yeah, nothing we can do about that 19:20:30 <Ark74> I'll make the MR for the libreoffice helper 19:20:50 <Ark74> we can figure the libreoffice-report-builder in the way 19:20:55 <chaosmonk> although we do import tor from another source, presumably for that reason 19:21:15 <Ark74> also, this will be on the backports repository 19:21:19 <Ark74> not in the main one 19:21:39 <Ark74> so people will only get this package if they enable backports 19:21:49 <Ark74> *packages 19:22:00 <Ark74> *these packages 19:22:20 <chaosmonk> hm. that makes me lean toward keeping libreoffice-report-builder so that the backported version does not have different behavior from the version in main 19:23:47 <chaosmonk> idk. i think removing it is almost certainly harmless, so if that's where you lean and quidam has no objection i say go for it 19:26:19 <Ark74> https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/merge_requests/262 19:29:05 <Ark74> quidam, if you see no issue with keeping libreoffice-report-builder (and its dependencies) on backports, then it can be merged. 19:29:40 <chaosmonk> Ark74: cool, nice work 19:29:57 <chaosmonk> anything else we can work on now, or should we just wait for quidam to get back? 19:30:52 <Ark74> Oh, please before we merge this we need sane-backends and doxygen 19:31:20 <Ark74> those 2 are missing, my guess is the arch=all issue we have on etiona 19:34:28 <Ark74> well, that's it for me for now 19:35:06 <chaosmonk> i've added a MR to remove the libsane helpers 19:37:01 <quidam> bandali: I've sent a long reply to mtg with you on copy 19:39:24 <chaosmonk> quidam: debian-installer still says no installation candidate for localechooser. did the build fail? 19:39:46 <quidam> chaosmonk: it built, but it is not in the repo yet 19:39:52 <quidam> I'll push it in 19:39:53 <chaosmonk> ah, okay 19:39:56 <chaosmonk> thanks 19:40:34 <Ark74_> Oh, what did I miss 19:40:36 <Ark74_> ¡ 19:40:38 <Ark74_> ? 19:41:02 <quidam> chaosmonk: pushing, will be there in a few min 19:41:13 * quidam checks backlog 19:41:38 <chaosmonk> quidam: see the "NOT YET IN REPO" section on this page <https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/status-package-helpers-etiona> for the list of source packages not in the repo. it's automatically generated from a script and might have some false positives, but should be mostly accurate 19:42:00 <chaosmonk> Ark74_: just that quidam is pushing localechooser to the repo 19:43:31 <Ark74_> ok 19:43:36 <quidam> chaosmonk: so those are the ones that need to be built for the first time on etiona, right? 19:43:47 <chaosmonk> yes 19:43:49 <quidam> not the ones that are missing -A 19:44:02 <quidam> that would be a separate list? 19:44:27 <chaosmonk> this list is for entire source packages which are missing 19:45:00 <chaosmonk> i just realized that i misunderstood which issue you were talking about when you suggested we make a list 19:48:11 <quidam> oh, I see 19:48:39 <quidam> they are different problems because the ones with missing arch-all packages need to be rebuilt, and for that they need the version number bumped 19:48:51 <quidam> otherwise the repo rejects it 19:49:07 <quidam> the ones that were never built are easy, just send the build order 19:49:08 <chaosmonk> quidam: okay, i understand 19:49:27 <quidam> anything else for me to do right now? 19:49:51 <quidam> otherwise I'd be going home 19:50:22 <chaosmonk> if you don't mind sticking around until localechooser is in the repo, i can see if there's another package to build for debian-installer 19:51:55 <chaosmonk> okay, i see it https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/pool/main/l/localechooser/ 19:51:59 <quidam> it is almost done. the repo processor is slow 19:52:59 <chaosmonk> do you use reprepro or something else? 19:53:10 <quidam> yeah, but the server is crap 19:53:13 <quidam> very bad io 19:53:50 <Ark74_> chaosmonk, so with these package are we closer to get a netinstall iso? 19:53:56 <Ark74_> *this 19:54:12 <quidam> chaosmonk: you see the file but the db is not finished updating 19:54:14 <Ark74_> sorry, I write as I hear it in my mind xD 19:54:17 <quidam> if you try now it will still fail 19:54:42 <quidam> Ark74_: yeah, it should lead to a buildable netinst, ideally 19:54:52 <quidam> well, is the kernel one done? did that work ok? 19:55:05 <chaosmonk> quidam: i see 19:55:37 <chaosmonk> Ark74_: yes. debian-installer fails because localechooser is missing. once that's fixed i can see what makes it fail next 19:56:05 <chaosmonk> hopefully nothing 19:56:14 <Ark74_> hahaha, I see, you are using the ark's libreoffice build style 19:56:22 <Ark74_> xD 19:57:00 <Ark74_> very clever of you! ;) 19:57:34 <Ark74_> yeah! a netinstaller will be very helpful to test and develop 19:58:16 <chaosmonk> i should probably stop being lazy and figure out how to make and add a local repo to sbuild so i don't need to rely on quidam to push each package before i proceed 19:58:42 <Ark74_> I already have one 19:59:01 <Ark74_> aptly could help if you use only binaries 19:59:18 <Ark74_> (still don't know how to send source there) 20:00:23 <chaosmonk> i've been learning how to use reprepro. i just need to find time to sit down and improve my etiona workflow 20:00:37 <Ark74_> ok 20:00:58 <chaosmonk> quidam: how will i know when localechooser is ready? 20:01:14 <Ark74_> quidam, did you had a chance to see the dependencies debate for libreoffice-report-builder ? 20:01:34 <quidam> chaosmonk: http://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/dists/etiona/ 20:01:41 <quidam> check for updates to the date on that 20:01:47 <quidam> Ark74_: no, sorry 20:01:54 <quidam> I have to run home, sorry guys 20:02:08 <quidam> thanks everybody for the great work, so much progress done! 20:02:14 <quidam> #endmeeting